seayakbill Posts: 307 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 17:18:50 GMTCountry Joe, firewood, and 1 more like this Post by seayakbill on Jul 16, 2024 17:18:50 GMTIn the latest Lionel 2024 #2 catalog is the American Railroads passenger set. Really terrific looking in the blue paint scheme on the GG-1 and 11 passenger cars. The train left NYC heading to Ogden, Utah celebrating the centennial of Americas first transcontinental RR. with John Wayne as one of the invited passengers. 3 locomotives were used with the GG-1 on the first leg out of NYC. But at $4800 catalog pricing just can't justify pulling the trigger. I wonder how many folks will place an order. Bill |
josef Posts: 5,130 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 18:29:11 GMTCountry Joe, rtraincollector, and 4 more like this Post by josef on Jul 16, 2024 18:29:11 GMTI can justify 4800.00 for a lot more essentials then for a toy. |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 18:39:09 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 18:39:09 GMTJul 16, 2024 17:18:50 GMT seayakbill said: In the latest Lionel 2024 #2 catalog is the American Railroads passenger set. Really terrific looking in the blue paint scheme on the GG-1 and 11 passenger cars. The train left NYC heading to Ogden, Utah celebrating the centennial of Americas first transcontinental RR. with John Wayne as one of the invited passengers. 3 locomotives were used with the GG-1 on the first leg out of NYC. But at $4800 catalog pricing just can't justify pulling the trigger. I wonder how many folks will place an order. Bill Bill do you have a copy of the catalog with you? |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 18:41:11 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 18:41:11 GMTFor those who say this set is too expensive. What would you consider a fair price at which you would buy this set as cataloged given all the features that are in it? |
Adam Posts: 10,359 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 19:26:57 GMTvia mobilejosef, mrmeep, and 1 more like this Post by Adam on Jul 16, 2024 19:26:57 GMTI will answer that in a different way. I can buy an electric riding mower for about the same price. I can also get a very nice American made Gibson Les Paul guitar for less. My gut feel is that the price is 3x higher than it should be but I don’t usually buy premium grade model trains so my internal price gauge isn’t well calibrated to the market. |
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healey36 Posts: 1,079 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 19:54:11 GMT Post by healey36 on Jul 16, 2024 19:54:11 GMTNo idea what a "fair" price is, but I can think of many things I'd rather spend the money on. Most expensive set I ever bought was a standard gauge MTH set headed by a 392E with Protosound. Loco and four freight cars topped out at $1400, but that was 25 years ago. I can't imagine that would cost more than $2300 today (if they were still making them), but who knows. |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 19:57:38 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 19:57:38 GMTJul 16, 2024 19:26:57 GMT Adam said: I will answer that in a different way. I can buy an electric riding mower for about the same price. I can also get a very nice American made Gibson Les Paul guitar for less. My gut feel is that the price is 3x higher than it should be but I don’t usually buy premium grade model trains so my internal price gauge isn’t well calibrated to the market.
The truth is that from a practical point of view, any money spent on trains is a waste of money. But I guess we are dreamers and not very practical! And I think that there will be enough dreamers out there who will buy this set. I don't think there are any recent high end train sets out there for sale by dealers at "blowout" prices. |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 19:58:10 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 19:58:10 GMTJul 16, 2024 19:54:11 GMT healey36 said: No idea what a "fair" price is, but I can think of many things I'd rather spend the money on. Most expensive set I ever bought was a standard gauge MTH set headed by a 392E with Protosound. Loco and four freight cars topped out at $1400, but that was 25 years ago. I can't imagine that would cost more than $2300 today (if they were still making them), but who knows. How long ago was that? |
healey36 Posts: 1,079 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 20:02:39 GMT Post by healey36 on Jul 16, 2024 20:02:39 GMTJul 16, 2024 19:58:10 GMT madockawando said: Jul 16, 2024 19:54:11 GMT healey36 said: No idea what a "fair" price is, but I can think of many things I'd rather spend the money on. Most expensive set I ever bought was a standard gauge MTH set headed by a 392E with Protosound. Loco and four freight cars topped out at $1400, but that was 25 years ago. I can't imagine that would cost more than $2300 today (if they were still making them), but who knows. How long ago was that? |
healey36 Posts: 1,079 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 20:12:17 GMTmrmeep likes this Post by healey36 on Jul 16, 2024 20:12:17 GMTI looked at the 2019 tinplate catalog...a new 392E was $899.95 and a 500-series freight car was $119.95, so the 2019 price for a loco and five500-series freights would have been $1499.70. If you presume inflation was 10%/year for the last four years, that still only gets you to a bit more than two grand today. |
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josef Posts: 5,130 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 20:40:07 GMTrtraincollector, mrmeep, and 1 more like this Post by josef on Jul 16, 2024 20:40:07 GMTJul 16, 2024 19:26:57 GMT Adam said: I will answer that in a different way. I can buy an electric riding mower for about the same price. I can also get a very nice American made Gibson Les Paul guitar for less. My gut feel is that the price is 3x higher than it should be but I don’t usually buy premium grade model trains so my internal price gauge isn’t well calibrated to the market. One could, if one really wanted the set. Get a personal loan at 3.33% and for the next 60 months just pay 96.00 a month. Total would just be by time loan is paid off 5760.00. Or wait 60 months and maybe find it for sale on EBay for 1800.00? |
seayakbill Posts: 307 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 20:45:25 GMT Post by seayakbill on Jul 16, 2024 20:45:25 GMTJul 16, 2024 18:39:09 GMT madockawando said: Jul 16, 2024 17:18:50 GMT seayakbill said: In the latest Lionel 2024 #2 catalog is the American Railroads passenger set. Really terrific looking in the blue paint scheme on the GG-1 and 11 passenger cars. The train left NYC heading to Ogden, Utah celebrating the centennial of Americas first transcontinental RR. with John Wayne as one of the invited passengers. 3 locomotives were used with the GG-1 on the first leg out of NYC. But at $4800 catalog pricing just can't justify pulling the trigger. I wonder how many folks will place an order. Bill Bill do you have a copy of the catalog with you? I do have my catalog, do ya have a question Bill |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 21:46:21 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 21:46:21 GMTJul 16, 2024 20:45:25 GMT seayakbill said: Jul 16, 2024 18:39:09 GMT madockawando said: Bill do you have a copy of the catalog with you? I do have my catalog, do ya have a question Bill Oooh... Do I have questions??? Any scale Rolling stock? New PS-1 boxcars? Gondolas? Any fantasy scale rolling stock? Area 51? Space stuff? |
madockawando Posts: 396 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 21:48:40 GMT Post by madockawando on Jul 16, 2024 21:48:40 GMTJul 16, 2024 20:40:07 GMT josef said: Jul 16, 2024 19:26:57 GMT Adam said: I will answer that in a different way. I can buy an electric riding mower for about the same price. I can also get a very nice American made Gibson Les Paul guitar for less. My gut feel is that the price is 3x higher than it should be but I don’t usually buy premium grade model trains so my internal price gauge isn’t well calibrated to the market. One could, if one really wanted the set. Get a personal loan at 3.33% and for the next 60 months just pay 96.00 a month. Total would just be by time loan is paid off 5760.00. Or wait 60 months and maybe find it for sale on EBay for 1800.00? My advice for anyone who wants a high end item but is leery of the big buck$: Put it on lay away with Mr Muffin. Its zero percent interest to do so. I also think EZ-Catch trains does this as well. If you like the train, you will find a way to buy it. |
josef Posts: 5,130 | Really, really like the set but $4800Jul 16, 2024 22:26:36 GMTmrmeep and firewood like this Post by josef on Jul 16, 2024 22:26:36 GMTMakes me wonder when the first 10,000.00 train set will come out from Lionel? |